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Sunday, August 5th, 2007

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Although our time in Vietnam was cut short by not being allowed to bring the trucks into the country, we still managed to see some pretty cool sights in Ho Chi Minh City and south along the Mekong Delta. Check out the photos in the gallery.

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Where in the world are the trucks?

Saturday, July 28th, 2007

Although our interactions with the border guards on Monday gave us a feeling of comfort leaving the trucks at the Cambodian border, some second thoughts of course still existed.  Is it safe to leave our cars at this border? The main immigration officer that we were dealing with told us it would be okay to leave the trucks, he then went inside to talk to his chief and returned to us with only one notation, "It is okay to leave the trucks, but they are not our responsibility."

Steve and I looked at each other both thinking, this is something you hear every day in the States.  We don’t blame them for noting that they will not take responsibility.  Just to make sure we ask the guard if he thinks personally they will be safe.  He follows with a series of laughs and then states two more times, "Yes, but we are not responsible."

Here in Cambodia something that you get used to is the incessant smiling that all of the locals cannot seem to suppress.  Along with these smiles come curious children saying hello over and over, groups of people surrounding the trucks in disbelief, and many many laughs.  With our experience here so far, these laughs should just be taken as typical Cambodian excitement.  Obviously, we would be out of our minds to leave the cars if this was a true laugh like you might get in the States reiterating the fact that what you are doing is such a bad idea it deserves a giggle.

Clearly the conclusion stood with those laughs being a sign of excitement since we did end up leaving the cars behind.  One way or another someone had to go get Steve’s dad and Helen Todd, our newest team member, in Saigon. Once we arrived in Saigon the trucks were the last of our worries.  We rode the bus speedily into town, found our hotel and got online.  The first and foremost of our emails went out to our contacts at USAID to see if they had any ideas on ways we could get the cars into Vietnam.

The next few hours we took care of a few loose ends like visas, route planning and exchanging money.  Our friend Hal at USAID had already responded to us by the time returned to the room.  His response…

Subject: A Suggestion…

In a country where the average wage is less than a couple of dollars per day and car theft is common, I would recommend that you get back to your loaded 4×4 trucks as soon as possible…

I will see what I can find out for you about getting some permits.

Hal

Bouey read the email while sitting with his laptop on the bed and looked over at me saying, "This is not what we need right now." I was ready to hear something about why we would not be getting the trucks into Vietnam, but instead I heard the words of this email.  This is a point in time where butterflies turn into a simply upset sense of being.  Daily we are confronted by obstacles and challenges that we must overcome to keep this operation on the move.  In our minds the solution we came up with for the trucks seemed to be completely reasonable while we spent a week or so in Vietnam.

"What do you think we should do?" Bouey asked me.
"I don’t know, I think it is highly unlikely that the trucks will get stolen."
"They are underneath a security camera, and behind a guarded gate. I agree."
"But what if the guards get paid off by someone?"
"It is Cambodia."

That is the truth.  We were in Vietnam and the trucks were parked at the border in the hands of a bunch of guys that make less than $10 per day.  We started to do some Internet research and go through some scenarios of why and how the cars would get stolen or broken into. According to a crime report on Cambodia, car theft is predominantly in Phnom Pehn and generally is a live robbery or car jacking.  But a couple of facts off the Internet and two guys sitting at a cafe in Vietnam discussing scenarios is hardly the kind of thing that will put your mind at ease.

What the heck did Hal think that his advice would do for us? The trucks were already there, at risk. Admittedly, leaving the cars at the border or anywhere in a foreign and corrupt country is not the smartest idea. But as you go around the world, you have to make some concessions to your own safety and the possibility of theft or you will never sleep at night.  In the end we needed to be in Saigon and the cars were going nowhere but back to Cambodia.

After another day of discussion it was final, I would be going back to get the vehicles in Cambodia and Steve would stay with his father and meet up with Helen. So how does one guy gather up and move two vehicles by himself? He doesn’t. Again the concessions come into play. We would have to leave one truck and my job was to find a safe place for it.  The next morning Bouey’s father loaned me the last of the US dollars in his pocket, which was a total of $75.  I then jumped on a bus headed for the border.

In the back of my head I knew that the trucks would be there, but the worries were still picking at my thoughts. Upon arrival at the Vietnam border there were many people waiting at immigration to get processed out of the country. I stood quite impatiently in line knowing that the trucks may or may not be just a couple hundred yards away.  Finally, it was my turn and as soon as I received my passport stamps I was hurrying to the Cambodian border.

The trucks were on the opposite side of the immigration building…I had another 15 minutes of paperwork to get my visa and get through customs. Are you anxious yet? Because I am while just typing and this already happened to me.  I paid my $20 for the visa, and the $1 for the "photo fee" even though a photo was not taken and there are no photos involved with Cambodian visas.  After racing my way through the immigration checkpoint, I was then stopped at customs and quarantine, but from here I could relax because in all their glory Little Pepe and the Thundra were in sight through the window. Ahhhh…but the relaxation continues.

Upon entry the quarantine officer asked for my vaccination card. The highly populous country of Vietnam (over 85 million) can have a tendency to lend a few diseases to Cambodia from time to time and why not add another way to charge a cute little "fee" for not having your card. Upon informing the officer that my card was in my truck just outside the window, he smiled and said, "That is your truck? Go on through." Little P and Big T save themselves once again! We did not need to check on the two of them, they were making friends while we were gone.

I threw my bags in the truck and grabbed the Carnet to get another stamp into the country. The first customs officer I talked to escorted me outside to talk with the head hancho. The next thing you know I am sitting down with 6 customs officers having a homemade Khmer lunch.  They all asked me questions about the trucks and were eager to learn more about the journey.  The head officer did not speak much English, but wanted to participate by saying to me, "I am Cambodian customs officer, who are you?" I thought for a second and replied, "I am a just a guy driving around the world." Mine did not sound quite as official.

Upon finishing lunch one of the officers gave me his name and phone number in case we had any troubles at the next border. After all of these men’s generosity, my side of this exchange felt a little lacking.  At this point the only thing to do was hand out some beer coozies and patches. The guards were overjoyed to have something that was part of our journey; their enthusiasm was like a magnet that made it hard to leave. To finish off the afternoon at the border I grabbed the Polaroid camera and snapped off a few shots with the boys for them to keep and took a couple of my own with my camera.

When packing up the Sequoia and driving away, the only thing that came to mind was shame for ever assuming that these upstanding Cambodians who protect their border would be the type to steal our trucks. Our gut instinct told us these were good men when we left the trucks. Although only for our best interests, our advice from Bangkok was based on little more than broad generalizations from a few people in an office who had never been to this border. No matter what the statistics say about a place, there are always more people that want good than bad, there are always more people that want to help than to hurt. This day at the border was a well placed reminder to look for the good in situations before assuming the worst, because well…assuming the worst really just makes you an ass with an uming on the end.

In Hal’s defense, he later took back his statement and said that the trucks would probably be okay, but his seeds were planted and the only thing we could do was send me back.

The rest of the day was filled with a gas purchase from a villager out of a barrel, entertaining about 30 locals full of curiosity at another "gas station", and barely squeezing into the remote town Kompong Cham with the last of a tank of gas and only $5 left in my pocket to get me dinner and a hotel. After being alone for a few days and in a more remote area than we have taken the expedition yet, the road ahead looks more exciting than ever and the view of the Mekong from my $5 hotel certainly helps to ease into the next part of the journey.  Hello rural Cambodia and South Laos.

The local BP station

 

And we think that we need a truck to carry all of our gear?

 

The roads have a different way of curving here.  It is very similar to a smoke signal, but a little more like a lightning bolt shooting out of the ground.

Welcome to Kratie, the next town after Kompong Cham

The Mekong from my hotel.  A pretty nice view for only $5

"Man This Place Has Changed"

Friday, July 27th, 2007

My father served in the U.S. Navy in Vietnam for 20 months. He spent 10 months working with the U.S. Marines in Dong Ha, a few miles south of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), and then another 10 months working to train Vietnamese locals in Go Cong Province about 2 hours south of what was then Saigon. 

When my dad arrived in Vietnam a few days ago, the airport was in the same location as it was nearly 40 years ago but he arrived in a city that after the fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975, had now been renamed Ho Chi Minh City. Back then, there were only about 30 million people in Vietnam and one of the first things he noticed was how many more people there were. Today, Vietnam’s population is approaching 90 million people and it seems like most of them have motorbikes and most of them drive them at the exact same time. The weather is just as he remembered it and many of the smells he became familiar with are still here. To see just how much things have changed, we hired a car and drove down to Go Cong to see if anything remained from his time spent there.

 Driving down the same road my dad used to navigate when he came into the city once a month brought back some memories and even though he recognized the turns, a once rough and unpaved road had now been sealed… although it was still pretty rough. Rivers that my dad once had to cross by boat were now spanned by bridges and in areas where only rice paddies existed, houses and shops have popped up everywhere. The area has been so built up in the last 40 years that my dad did not think he would recognize anything once we arrived in the provincial capital. However, once we did arrive, he was quick to point out the province chief’s house which to this day is still well maintained. This immediately initiated stories of my father’s encounters with the crafty, corrupt head of the province.

We continued down the road a bit further to Tang Hoa where the northern end of the Mekong Delta empties into the South China Sea and this again brought back memories.. this time about the enlisted men working with my dad getting Hepatitis from eating bad seafood there. After a few hours, we headed back to HCMC, but not before spotting an old schoolhouse that my dad actually helped to construct. A new building ha s since been erected behind the structure, but the old schoolhouse was still standing and appeared to still be in use. We managed to see a few more sights in the city including the Presidential Palace (now called the Reunification Palace) and the War Remnants Museum. Aside from pointing out what my dad referred to as factual errors about the war, we had a pretty good time and did enjoy a laugh or two about the propaganda printed on the pamphlets we received. I learned a lot during our day trips in and around HCMC and for my dad, seeing how much Vietnam has changed, yet in some ways has remained the same, has also been a good experience.

Troubles at the Border

Tuesday, July 24th, 2007

So far, we have had pretty smooth sailing in terms of crossing new frontiers with the trucks. We anticipated some potential problems in southern Thailand… no worries. We were a little anxious about Cambodia… nice people. We had researched as much as we could from as many sources as possible about crossing into Vietnam with the Toyotas and all indications pointed to there being not too much of a hassle relatively speaking. Lonely Planet said it was crazy to self-drive in Vietnam (which they have about most of the other countries in SE Asia we have been) but did mention possessing a Carnet was a must if you were so inclined to bring a car into the country.

When we arrived at the Cambodia-Vietnam border in Bavet, the Cambodian customs official said that we probably would not get into Vietnam with our vehicles. We told him that the trucks were not from Thailand, were registered in the US and that we had Carnets. He said those factors might help but he was still not sure if it would work. The Cambodians were nice enough to let us leave our vehicles at the border and let us wander over into Vietnam to do some recon. The customs officials even let us go without stamping our passports so our visas would not become void if we did run into trouble and had to return.

After a 10 minute walk in the sweltering July heat, we were in Moc Bai, Vietnam and as usual, entered a whole new world. Unlike Cambodia, where all of the customs officials and border guards we encountered had a firm grasp of the English language, we struggled to find anyone who even knew what we were asking. After about 40 minutes, we finally found someone who could translate our inquiry to the customs "boss." After a few hours of negotiating, it became pretty clear that he was not going to let us into Vietnam with the trucks. He even joked that he has turned many people just like us away, which was a big hit with the crowd of officials around us which by that time had steadily grown.

The official reason we were being denied entry with our vehicles is because Vietnam is a socialist country… oh, how could I have let that slip… that makes perfect sense!?! The only way the "boss" would let the Toyotas in was if we had diplomatic plates and/or approval so the US Embassy can take responsibility for the trucks if "something" were to happen.

Given the situation, we would have just driven back into Cambodia where we could wait for our China paperwork to process (which it is!!) considering we were having such a pleasant experience. Unfortunately, we have to meet important people in Vietnam tomorrow… my dad. As such, we did the walk of shame back over to the Cambodian checkpoint and were greeted by the customs officer who had an innocent but obvious "I told you so" look on his face. He was kind enough to let us leave the Thundra and Little Pepe parked in front of the safe (we think) confines of the Cambodian checkpoint. It was a tough decision, but one that had to be made.

I am sure the trucks will be there safe and sound when we return in a week to gather them and head north via Laos (plan B), but it is going to be weird when people ask where the Toyotas are. "Oh, well, we left them parked at the Cambodian border for a week but we think they will be o.k." I never in my life thought a statement like that would come out of my mouth. By the way, we have not entirely given up on getting the trucks into Vietnam a little later down the road if need be… TWBR does not give up that easily.  

 

The border feels lonely without the Toyotas there

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The Buddhist prayer rooms overlook the Yangtze valley below

The Buddhist prayer rooms overlook the Yangtze valley below


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